» mffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 856 posts, RR: 0Reply 1, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 11:33:00 your local time (1 day 3 hours 29 minutes ago) and read 796 times: I like the 2nd pic with the movie theater barricades. Tickets please! And the last pic is very Top Gun... Why are there 2 guys pointing?? What if one them points the other direction? 我很喜欢第二张照片，有电影院围栏的那张，我也要买票去看！最后一张照片非常像Top Gun，但是为什么这俩人要用手指？？如果他们指的是另外一个方向咋办？_RIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 746 posts, RR: 0Reply 2, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 11:57:29 your local time (1 day 3 hours 5 minutes ago) and read 785 times: I'm confused by the markings on the aircraft. Never seen anything like that before. Don't the Chinese use a red star in the middle with two red bars on each side, or is this a Navy version?我被飞机的涂装迷惑了，从来没见过这样的。中国空军不是用的是一个红星加两条杠的标志么？难道这是海军的版本？_BladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 383 posts, RR: 0Reply 3, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 13:21:12 your local time (1 day 1 hour 41 minutes ago) and read 739 times: Quoting RIXrat (Reply 2):I'm confused by the markings on the aircraft. Never seen anything like that before. Don't the Chinese use a red star in the middle with two red bars on each side, or is this a Navy version?Those are test markings, usually for cameras so they know what to aim at.(回复上一个人)这些是测试用的标志，主要是用来给相机作为对焦点使用的。(原来如此？)_RIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 746 posts, RR: 0Reply 4, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 16:41:39 your local time (22 hours 21 minutes 15 secs ago) and read 658 times: BladeLWS -- thanks for clearing that up. I was really scratching my head on that one.(回复上一个)非常感谢你的澄清，我真的被这个迷惑到了。_rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 5464 posts, RR: 26Reply 5, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 21:18:05 your local time (17 hours 44 minutes 49 secs ago) and read 540 times: I realize that is a test bird - but that is the ugliest color I've ever seen on an aircraft.我知道这是一架试验机，不过这真是有史以来最丑的涂装了。_alberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2586 posts, RR: 0Reply 6, posted Mon Nov 26 2012 00:32:10 your local time (14 hours 30 minutes 44 secs ago) and read 449 times: This is what the aircraft will look like when in service:BTW Am I the only one shocked at how fast the development of their carrier program is moving along ? To think that India has spent far more money and in the end only getting a used refurbished carrier...这是这个飞机正常的涂装(附图)顺便说一句，难道只有我一个人被中国航母计划的进展震撼到了么？想想印度，花了这么多钱，最后只得到了一艘二手翻新航母。_rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 5464 posts, RR: 26Reply 7, posted Mon Nov 26 2012 01:13:57 your local time (13 hours 48 minutes 57 secs ago) and read 426 times: Quoting alberchico (Reply 6):Am I the only one shocked at how fast the development of their carrier program is moving along ?Well, the program is almost 40 years along its development track.Also remember that China has acquired three other aircraft carriers - to study even though some eventually were converted for other roles. They have also spend a lot of money buying and studying aircraft designs from other nations.This carrier and program are a continuation of the development work done by the Soviets. The basic hull and design are the Soviet carrier Varyag - refurbished, completed and updated.We will see their first locally 'designed' carrier no sooner than 2015.What we are seeing now is the implementation of decades of work. And they are not at the end of the program.(回复上一个)好吧，中国的项目其实已经进行了快40年了。同时你也得记住中国已经买了3艘航母了，尽管很多最后被用在其他地方了，不过中国人还是做了研究的。他们同时也花了很多钱购买并且研究其他国家的舰载机。这个航母计划其实是苏联的延续，船体和设计都是延续苏联的瓦良格号。我们要在2015年以后才能看到国妈。我们现在看到的是几十年工作的成果，并且不是最后一个成果...Quoting alberchico (Reply 6):To think that India has spent far more money and in the end only getting a used refurbished carrier...While we know some of the numbers about the India program, we don't know the numbers about the China program.I would believe that China has thrown more money at the problem than India.But China's system would make the total amount of money to be used more efficiently in my opinion.(回复上一个)我们只知道印度人花了很多钱在航母上，但我们不知道中国人花了多少，我认为中国花的可比印度多了。并且我认为中国的制度比印度的在花钱上更有效率。_Acheron From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1367 posts, RR: 2Reply 8, posted Mon Nov 26 2012 08:40:08 your local time (6 hours 22 minutes 46 secs ago) and read 221 times: Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 7):This carrier and program are a continuation of the development work done by the Soviets.Considering how the Chinese seem to be aiming at copying the american style CVBG's and the fact that the Soviets used a completely different doctrine and employment for their "carriers", that seems unlikely.The only thing this thing has in common with the soviets after all the modifications the chinese did to it, its the basic hull design and nothing else.(回复上一个)PS:看来也有美国军迷对中国的军事发展和体系很关心啊_Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 9386 posts, RR: 18Reply 9, posted Mon Nov 26 2012 11:39:26 your local time (3 hours 23 minutes 28 secs ago) and read 97 times: Quoting Acheron (Reply 8):The only thing this thing has in common with the soviets after all the modifications the chinese did to it, its the basic hull design and nothing else.Well that, and both are in various target identification databases maintained by the USAF and USN.(回复上一个)好吧，不过他们都已经进入美国空军和美国海军的目标数据库了...(汗)=================================不过发言是来自军事论坛 ，知识层面和国家实力决定了群众心态改动发言是来自专业的军事论坛？？？ Post by 音箱 (2012-11-27 02:52) Post by 音箱 (2012-11-27 02:52)改动 Post by 不挖坑不舒服斯基 (2012-11-27 02:54) Post by 不挖坑不舒服斯基 (2012-11-27 02:54) Post by tommysharp (2012-11-27 02:57)没看法 感觉这船很小 有些LHD比这船大 能装的飞机太少 机身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是这船象征性大于实用性 人们很high我也理解 唯一关心的是船员内部设施怎么样 如果还不行企业号真的就完暴了 完了改动从无到有这步已经跨过去了，该开始思考如何从弱到强了这美国网友英语水平还不如WOW论坛的英语水平。日本肯定也有暗窥天朝 理性分析天朝实力的人 不要被死宅们迷惑了 没看法 感觉这船很小 有些LHD比这船大 能装的飞机太少 机身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是这船象征性大于实用性 人们很high我也理解 唯一关心的是船员内部设施怎么样 如果还不行企业号真的就完暴了 完了 没看法 感觉这船很小 有些LHD比这船大 能装的飞机太少 机身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是这船象征性大于实用性 人们很high我也理解 唯一关心的是船员内部设施怎么样 如果还不行企业号真的就....... 全没参过军 甚至连航母都没走过的 civilian 国内的军迷比他们知道的都多 没看法 感觉这船很小 有些LHD比这船大 能装的飞机太少 机身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是这船象征性大于实用性 人们很high我也理解 唯一关心的是船员内部设施怎么样 如果还不行企业号真的就完暴了 完了 这美国网友英语水平还不如WOW论坛的英语水平。 没看法 感觉这船很小 有些LHD比这船大 能装的飞机太少 机身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是这船象征性大于实用性 人们很high我也理解 唯一关心的是船员内部设施怎么样 如果还不行企业号真的就.......