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[转贴至SB] 澳洲防务砖家:土鳖的新隐形机(已补原文连接外加部分英文评论翻译)

时间:2012-09-18 17:36 来源:www.vimiy.com 作者:编辑 点击:


    原文:
    
    Bill Sweetman :China's New Stealth Fighter. Not a repeat from December 2010.
    砖家:土鳖的新隐形机——不是2010年11月的火星帖。
    
    The US defense secretary is on his way to Beijing. Time to unveil a new stealth fighter...
    米防长正在去帝都的路上,适逢为新隐形机揭幕的时刻....
    
    Short take-off and vertical landing has been one of the two driving requirements behind the Joint Strike Fighter design, the other being stealth.
    追求短距及垂直起降能力(STOVL)是JSF的两个驱动因素之一,之二便是隐形能力。
    
    STOVL dictated the single engine, and the STOVL solution chosen for the F-35 demands a big vertical bay behind the cockpit, and a main engine located unusually far forward, to keep the driveshaft length within reason and to put the
    lift-cruise nozzle in the right longitudinal location for balance.
    STOVL采用了单发方案,使得球电的座舱后面安置了一个巨大的垂直的升力风扇舱室,发动机也突破常规地安置在更靠前的位置,好将传动轴的长度限制在合理范围内并与垂直喷嘴保持平衡。
    
    This constrains the weapon-bay volume and shape, and effectively subdivides the bays into four zones - two AAM bays and two heavy store sections. As Amy Butler reports in Aviation Week this week, too, the weapon bays, wrapped around the engine, get hot and noisy.
    这些都制约了飞机的武器舱的外形和大小,事实上把武器舱割裂为四个部分,两个空空导弹弹仓,两个重载荷弹仓。就如Amy Butler本周在航空周刊上报道的一样,弹仓紧紧环绕于发动机周围,承受着高温和高震动的考验。
    
    If you ever wondered what a JSF might look without those constraints, we now have a live, physical example.
    如果你猜想,要是JSF甩开这些包袱会是个啥样,那我们现在正有一个活生生的例子摆在眼前。
    
    Unfortunately...
    倒霉的是。
    
    
    
    ..it's Chinese.
    它是土鳖的。
    
    
    One of the photos of the new Shenyang stealth fighter, apparently designated J-31, that appeared on Chinese defense websites over the weekend is such a colossal gimme that it has to have been deliberate. Direct head-on shot? Check.Commercially available aircraft tug? Check. Extreme telephoto, so that perspective effects are lost in the noise? Check.
    这是一张新型的沈飞隐形战机的照片,似乎叫J-31,周末呈现在中国的防务论坛上,这一如此大方的赠礼,只能说是经过精心的谋划。正面免冠照?对了。商用的飞机牵引车?对了。超长焦镜头?以至于透视效果都淹没在图像噪点里?也对了。
    
    
    ?
    
    Sheesh, guys, can't you make it a challenge?
    靠,伙计,你能不能别玩我?
    
    The J-31's wingspan is an F-35-like 37.5 feet, unless my Soviet-watching skills have deserted me. This makes it smaller than the F-22 and considerably smaller than the Chengdu J-20. A good early guess is that the engines are Klimov RD-93s - imported in large numbers for the JF-17 - with a Chinese-built engine to follow.
    J-31跟球电相仿的翼展约为37.5英尺,除非我警惕的无产阶级火眼金睛把我欺骗了。这使得该机小于F-22,更远小于成飞J-20,初步稳妥地猜测,发动机是克里莫夫RD93S,之前有为JF-17大量进口过,接下来会代之以土鳖国产发动机。
    
    Turning to the side view of the jet, it looks as if the engines are installed to the rear of the bulkhead that carries the main landing gears. And with no lift fan bay to worry about, the designers have been able to install long weapon bays on the centerline: what will be interesting is how the inlet ducts are routed to optimize internal space.
    转到侧面去看这架战机,发动机似乎是装置于起落架舱室的后部,而且没有令人头疼的升力风扇,设计者们便可在机体中央安置更长的武器弹仓:而进气道该选择何种路径以便优化内部空间,就会很有趣了。
    Overall, the most important point is that the J-31 does not look like a competitor for the J-20 - but as a complement to it. Which, again, might point to the new fighter being a JSF to the J-20's F-22.
    总而言之,最重要的一点是J-31看起来并非是J-20的挑战者,更像是一个它的后援。这一点更说明这个新机型之于J-20,正如JSF之于F-22一样。
    
    And if you wonder about the detail similarities of the shape to the F-22 and F-35, remember this quote from 2010:
    而如果你对它在细节上与F-22和F-35的相仿感到讶异时,别忘记引自2010年的这条消息:
    
    In the past year (2009) alone, Lockheed Martin found “six to eight companies” among its subcontractors “had been totally compromised emails, their networks, everything” according to Lockheed Martin chief information security
    officer Anne Mullins.
    “仅在去年(2009)一年,洛马就发现它的‘六到八个’分包商,‘已经完全失密了,从电邮往来、到网络链接乃至一切’”,洛马首席信息安全主管Anne Mullins如是说。瞬间2页~~有木有人性啊。怎么感觉有点酸最后一句是天下无人不通共的节奏么-。-翻译的颇有喜感。 Post by carsomyr (2012-09-17 10:08)
    
    明明是一盘很大的麻将.“仅在去年(2009)一年,洛马就发现它的‘六到八个’分包商,‘已经完全失密了,从电邮往来、到网络链接乃至一切’”
    
    天下无人不通共啊……
    "思维特曼对J-31的评论(原创翻译贴)"
    
    
    你这个的原始贴在这里洛马啥意思? 那些分包商都被土共策反了?这股酸味不像是醋,更想是在豆浆里泡了三天的剩饭。对战斗力表示堪忧啊
    
    洛马啥意思? 那些分包商都被土共策反了?喂喂 最后一句啊喂!!!
    尾巴上那只鸟,好丑 这是打算给沈飞的4代姬找个美国爹么?澳洲的军事实力也配谈论别人.笑了洛克马丁公司,美国F22-F35战机的制造商andrei_sh
    4:16 PM on 9/16/2012
    This new fighter looks definitely good, much better than the J-20. The less they invent and more copy, the better result they get, Anyawy, my congratulations go to our chinese comrades.
    
    这家新战机看上去很不错,要比J-20帅多了。好像他们创新少越少,抄袭越多的话得到的成果会越好啊。不论怎么说,我得向我们的中国同志们道喜。
    
    Eric Palmer
    5:26 PM on 9/16/2012
    My sources tell me that part of the data that was downloaded in various compromise ops by the Chinese was the video about "maneuverability is irrelevant." and DAS. Because the video was so stupid-funny, it took down PLAAF email servers for a day or so because everyone was emailing it to their buddies. OK, I obviously made that up, but it is believable given the stupidity of some of our marketing pukes.
    
    个人搜查到的资料告诉我有一部分被中国人盗窃的机密是骡马的那个“机动性无用论”录像。应为那个录像实在是太傻太搞笑了,中国人民解放军空军的电子信箱的服务器都被搞垮了(解放军叔叔忙着互相送玩笑信了)。当然,这段是我编的。不过想想我们那帮做推销的傻瓜。。。个人觉得这个“笑话”还挺有真实性的。
    
    Maersk
    6:07 PM on 9/16/2012
    Hi Eric, do you also have the video showing how the Chinese hacked into your azz and stealing your virginity? I am just curious.
    
    你好Eric, 你有没有中国黑客爆你菊花帮你破处的录像啊?我比较好奇啊。
    
    Bill Sweetman, your soviet-watching skills definitely have deserted you. What you saw was a shemail and you thought it was a male. No wonder you've been depositing your package in a male box instead of a femail box.
    
    比尔思维特曼,你的观察能力的确不行了。你看到了一个女伴男装的居然认为她是个男的。怪不得你老是把你的邮件放到邮箱里而不是“女箱”里。(这位好像喝多了)。
    
    
    Eric Palmer
    6:28 PM on 9/16/2012
    The joys of nameless internet trolls.
    
    无所事事的小屁孩又在网上找乐子了。
    
    Maersk
    6:55 PM on 9/16/2012
    My source told me that you did have the video. Are you ashamed of yourself of how easy your azz was hacked and your virginity stolen?
    
    我查到的资料很明确的说你的确有那些录像。你是不是对黑客轻而易举的把你爆菊破处而感到难为情啊?
    
    
    Hardcore
    6:54 PM on 9/16/2012
    
    The Soviets where also accused of being copycats. I expect it be no more true the Chinese is.
    以前很多人也认为苏联人经常剽窃西方。我认为中国人,和他们一样,被冤枉了。
    The basic configuration is a copy of a proven type for sure, like most modern "X" proposal is (but they could have chosen a better role model; the PAK-FA is a more advanced design).
    Apart from that I expect it to be Chinese under the skin.
    这架飞机的基本布局,和大部分四代机计划一样,肯定是拷贝现有四代机的(不过他们可以选择一个更好的参照品;T-50就要比它先进很多)。
    It goes without saying it will be cheaper and fly better than the JSF. The only consolation is that the Chinese will probably not export it (at least not close US allies) repeating the US mistake with the raptor. Too paranoid.
    它肯定会比JSF便宜而且飞行性能会更棒。唯一能安慰我们的是中国人应该不会把它卖给别的国家(最起码不会买个美国的盟国)。他们这样做的话会重复美国人禁卖猛禽的错误。他们太偏执了。
    Still, every new Chinese fighter emerging into the light make the JSF ever more embarrassing.
    无论怎么说,每一个新式中国战斗机的出现都在狠狠的打F-35的脸!最后一句是·········天下无人不通共么··天下无人不通共的节奏= =
    

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