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“要防范伊斯兰教渗透宪法!”—失败的高中教育
    Those defending US Constitution from sharia must havefailed high school civics
    作者:crasyman-110 发布日期:2012-09-19 浏览:3520
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    “要防范伊斯兰教渗透宪法!”—失败的高中教育
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    m11663
    ...and yet, we can point to numerous times, incourtrooms across the country, where international law has been consideredprior to a decision being rendered. AndSuprememe Court Justice Sonya Sotamayor is an advocate of the use ofinternational law. So really, how far ofa leap is it to be concerned about the application of laws - not practices - ofsharia. Perhaps we should ask theresidents of Dearborn, Michigan.
    6 months ago 3 Likes
    
    我们多次指出,在全国各地的法庭,将国际法作为是否通过决议的首要考量是司法惯例。同时,最高法院法官SonyaSotamayor是一个提倡使用国际法的支持者。从实际面上来说,到底到什么时候我们才有必要真正开始伊斯兰教法的应用呢。也许我们应该问密歇根州迪尔伯恩市的居民。
    
    matthewsailhardy
    No doubt Americans can be found who will claim theyhave committed honor rapes and honor killings. It’s only a matter of time..
    6 months ago 1 Like
    
    毫无疑问,美国人不久就会发现有人宣称他们已经实施了荣誉强奸和荣誉谋杀。这只是一个时间问题。
    
    J Robert Giles
    I'm not looking for Islamic permission in my life, areyou? Please read and share the attached article.
    
    6 months ago 1 Like
    
    我不是在在我的生命中寻找伊斯兰许可,你呢?请阅读和分享附件上的文章。
    
    Doug
    "The draconian laws enacted by these countries suchas stoning for adultery or punishments against blasphemy and apostasy arenowhere in the Quran and have no place in the modern world." That's where you are wrong. Those laws have many places in the modernworld - Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia to name a few. That is the modern world -- a worldincreasingly full of extreme religious fanaticism. Governments that take no action when fanaticskill people because some mass produced/ photocopied book is accidentallyburned.
    6 months ago 6 Likes
    
    “这些国家颁布的严厉的法律——如对通奸、渎神和叛教等的残酷刑罚——并不是可兰经的内容,也不是现代社会所能容忍的。”这是你错的地方。使用这些法律的区域有很多处于现代世界——阿富汗、伊朗、沙特阿拉伯等等。这是现代世界——一个越来越充满极端宗教狂热的世界。当狂热分子因为一些大规模生产或影印的书被“无意间”烧毁而杀人时,政府不采取任何行动。
    
    hariprakash
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    look at the history of what has happened to societieswhere Islam has taken over. I am sorry but it is in the Islamic dominatedcountries that all the other religions and creeds disappear. Islam just cannotspread within democratic societies and have those societies remain democraticand free. Islam is a political entity that goes with its religious aspects. Itcannot coexist with the constitution in which the law is according to the ruleof law for each individual. In Islam the only law is Allah and the individualis subservient to it. This article is naive and does not understand Taquiya andthe Islamic codes that change societies from diverse to backward dhimmi's sorrybut it is you who do not understand
    
    看看历史上被伊斯兰教接管的社会里发生了什么。我很抱歉,但是在伊斯兰教主导的国家,所有其他宗教和教义都消失了。伊斯兰教就不可能传播到民主社会中去,并同时保持这些社会的民主与自由。伊斯兰教是一个伴随着其宗教的政治实体。它不能与宪法共存。伊斯兰教的唯一法律就是真主,个人只能屈从于他。这篇文章是幼稚的,他并没有理解Taquiya和伊斯兰法典,伊斯兰法典将多样化的社会退化为顺民的社会。很抱歉,你确实没有理解(反伊斯兰的真意)。
    
    Phil Seymour
    I enjoyed the well researched and reasonable manner inwhich the contentious rhetoric and unfounded fears are calmly addressed andallayed. It's too bad that some of those who have commented here, either didn'tread it, or lack the reading skills to understand what you, the author, haveconcisely written.
    (Edited by author 6 months ago)
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    6 months ago 7 Likes
    
    我喜欢本文合理的研究方法,在这文章中那些争议性的言论和毫无根据的恐惧被平静地抚平和减轻。这里一些人发表的评论太糟糕了,他们要么没读本文,要么缺乏阅读技巧来了解作者在讲什么。
    
    Mikey1969
    This is why theCSM is actually a citeable source that I will accept, they do research, theyaddress the issues in a professional manner, and they don't fall for theschtick put forth by politicians like Gingrich and "personalities"like Limbaugh. CSM is too smart to fall for the bullspit that the majority ofthe so-called conservatives lap up like it was ambrosia. They don't pander tothe base, they actually address the issues rationally and use FACTS. Outletslike Fox wouldn't know a fact if it gave them a free lap dance.
    Since you can't wholly trust the media on the Lefteither, it's nice to have a conservative news outlet that actually hasjournalistic standards AND intelligent writers.
    I'm trying to teach my stepsons how to actually beIndependents initially, and to think before they choose a specific Party(Ifthey ever do). CSM is the type of news outlet that I can point them to if theywant to find out the Conservative take on an issue without the vitriol normallyreserved for the Limbaughs, Coulters and O'Reillys of the world.
    Keep up the good work CSM!!!!!!
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    6 months ago in reply to Phil Seymour 1 Like
    
    表扬CSM公平公正的,略。
    
    hariprakash
    one more thing. Sharia law and the US constitution arein conflict with each other. Sharia law cannot be allowed in the US because itis in conflict with US constituional law. Just look at history look at what hashapped and understand religious freedom cannot be one sided. What happened tothe Jewish and Christian communities throughout the Middle East. They were notallowed to coexist. Every religion must accept that it is subservient to thelaw of the land secular law. Islam does not period! naive naive
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    6 months ago 7 Likes
    
    还有一件事。伊斯兰教法和美国宪法是互相冲突的。伊斯兰教法不能被允许在美国实施,因为它与我们的宪法冲突。看看历史看看发生了什么,理解宗教自由不能这么片面。犹太教和基督教社区在整个中东地区发生了什么?他们不被允许共存。每个宗教必须接受的事实是,它们必须屈从于当地的世俗法律。伊斯兰教不想屈从!太天真了!!
    
    Khalid Luqman
    "What happened to the Jewish and Christiancommunities throughout the Middle East. They were not allowed to coexist. Everyreligion must accept that it is subservient to the law of the land secular law.Islam does not period! naive naive"
    A first hand account of how you are pretty much wrong:
     Jews and Christianscoexisted with Muslims in the Middle East for centuries - in Egypt, they werefine until 1952, and were even capable of attaining aristocratic status. Thereare undoubtedly examples of conflict between peoples in history, but such examplesof conflict are not unique to one group. they are symptoms of the humancondition.
    6 months ago in reply to hariprakash 7 Likes
    
    “犹太教和基督教社区在整个中东地区发生了什么?他们不被允许共存。每个宗教必须接受的事实是,它们必须屈从于当地的世俗法律。伊斯兰教不想屈从!太天真了!!”
    这是证明你是非常错误的首要证据:
    
    犹太人和基督徒与穆斯林在中东—共存了数世纪—在埃及,他们一直很好直到1952年,他们甚至可以获得贵族地位。在历史上确实存在着各种各样人与人之间冲突的例子,但这样冲突的例子并不指向唯一的一个群体(伊斯兰)。冲突是人类共有的症状。
    
    hariprakash
    Khalid,I would love to agree but I cannot and remain true to history. Yes Until the50's there were Christian and Jewish communities and there are examples like inEgypt of minorities flourishing but not enough. Look at Saudi Arabia, Iraq andthroughout the Islamic world where there literally are NO Jews and Christians,Bahia's etc are almost non-existant. Don't forget that Islamic socieites taxnon Muslims and allow churches and Temples to fall into disrepair. Democracyand constitutional law cannot allow religious doctrine to dictate how oneshould live. Today the Coptics and Christians are being slaughtered in Egypt,NIgeria and throughout the Islamic world. even Mohammad himself said thatIsrael is for the Jews and although the Koran does not mention Jerusalem onetime, Muslims are trying to claim it because any area once conquered by Islammust according to Islamic thinking be returned even if the land did not belongto them in the first place, King David united Israel under the Jews with itscapital in Hebron and Jerusalem long before Islam or Arab tribes there and theRomans came up with the name Palestine no connection to Arabs or Islam. Look atIran where the beautiful zoroastrian culture was buried under the assault ofIslam and King Cyrus who wrote the firest manifesto of humanrights in Iran is now a distant memory buried under Islam. Diversity is whatmakes life beautiful not control and fear. Attaturk would turn over in hisgrave if he knew that the Islamists and taken over Turkey again and are pullingit back to backwardness. Attaturk did not want the Muslim Brotherhood tooperate in Turkwy or elsewhere. Muslims have not been allowed to learn realhistory and need to stay away from their political centers and assimilate intotheir countries of residence. Sadly the Mosques carry political functions aswell as religious which naive Americans don't understand. It is difficult toseperate as Mohammad had the mosque operate as both a religious and politicalbase
    6 months ago in reply to Khalid Luqman 4 Likes
    
    Khalid,我很想同意你的观点,但我不能,我们还是忠于历史吧。是的,直到50年代基督教和犹太教社区在一起,同时也有像在埃及的少数民族的繁荣这样的现象,但是这是不够的。看看沙特阿拉伯,伊拉克和整个伊斯兰世界,那里没有犹太人和基督徒。别忘了,伊斯兰社会向非穆斯林收税,同时还听任教堂、寺庙年久失修。民主和宪法法律不能允许宗教教义来决定一个人如何生活。今天,埃及人和基督徒在埃及、尼日利亚和整个伊斯兰世界被屠杀。即使穆罕默德本人说过以色列是犹太人的,尽管《古兰经》没有提到耶路撒冷一次,穆斯林还是试图取得以色列的所有权,因为任何区域一旦被伊斯兰教征服,根据伊斯兰思维即使土地不属于他们,他也必须被首先归还给穆斯林。大卫王依靠犹太人统一了以色列,并将首都定在希伯仑和耶路撒冷,这在历史上远先于伊斯兰教或阿拉伯部落在那里的征服。罗马人想出这个巴勒斯坦这个名字,这与阿拉伯人或伊斯兰教没有任何联系。看看伊朗,美丽的琐罗亚斯德教的文明被伊斯兰教的袭击所埋葬,琐罗亚斯德教的文明的居鲁王在伊朗历史上首先写下了人权宣言,但是现在伊朗的人权仅仅是一个埋在伊斯兰教里的遥远的回忆罢了。是多样性让生命如此美丽而不是控制和恐惧。如果Attaturk他知道,伊斯兰教徒接管了土耳其并使得它历史性的倒退,他会被气活吧。Attaturk不希望穆斯林兄弟会在土耳其或其他地方得以开办。穆斯林教徒不被允许学习真正的历史,同时他们必须远离他们的政治中心并使得自己与他人同化。可悲的是清真寺是政教一体的,而天真的美国人却不理解。我们很难将穆罕默德的清真寺是作为宗教场所还是政治基地分开。没总结,怎么看?龙腾的玩意没评论翻译不好玩啊,我才不管正文写的什么美国人都是坏人。
    
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