» 这是真还是假哦？？？？？------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WASHINGTON: At least 20 US states have filed petitions to secede following the re-election of Barack Obama.华盛顿：随着巴拉克•奥巴马的成功连任，美国至少20个州提出脱离联邦的请求。 Following the re-election, several petitions surfaced requesting the Obama administration to peacefully grant the applied state to withdraw from the United States of America in order to create their own government.随着连任成功，几个请愿浮出水面，要求奥巴马政府和平接受几个州要求退出美利坚合众国以建立他们自己的政府的请求。 Louisiana was the first state to file a petition followed by Texas.路易斯安那州是第一个提出请求的州，紧随其后的是德克萨斯州。 States with secession-related petitions on the White House website no include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina and Tennessee.在白宫网站上提交有关脱离联邦请愿的州不包括阿拉巴马州、阿肯色州、科罗拉多州、佛罗里达州、乔治亚州、印第安纳州、肯塔基州、密歇根州密西西比州、密苏里州、蒙大拿州、新泽西州、纽约、北卡罗来纳州、北达科他州、俄勒冈州南卡罗来纳州和田纳西州。Reader CommentsThis hue & cry is only in this part of the world otherwise there is nothing in U>S> media. Is it not strange. Most people do not know that U.S. is the only country where where any State constitutionally has the right to secede or revolt without being labelled as traitor. That is why since the United States of America came into being 200 years before no state seceded instead more states (4-5) joined. It is a lesson to the countries of third world.这种调子和哭喊只存在于世界的一部分，否则美国媒体就没啥可播的了。这奇怪么。大多数人都不知道美国是唯一一个，其所有的任意一个州从宪法上来说，都有权利脱离或反抗联邦而不会被贴上背叛者标签的国家。这就是自从美利坚合众国诞生200年来，不但没有州脱离联邦，反而有更多的州(4 到5个)加入联邦的原因。这对第三世界的一些国家来说，是个值得学习的例子。khizir farooqiPakistanHistory repeats itself, first as a tragedy (US Civil War) then as a comedy (Petition to Secede).历史总是相似的，以悲剧开场(美国内战)，然后以喜剧谢幕(请愿脱离联邦)。AhmedKazakhstanWhat a bunch of nonsense. Zero States have petitioned to secede. However, people claiming to be from all 50 states have signed onto petitions available on a White House website asking that their states be allowed to secede. They can't, of course. We fought a Civil War to establish that. It's settled.都是废话。没有州提出脱离联邦的请求。只是一些人自己在白宫网站上签署脱离联邦的请愿书，要求他们所在的州被允许脱离联邦。当然他们不能脱离联邦。我们打赢内战以建立这样的体制。这是定好了的。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：chen_lt-------------David SalmonUSAMan It will be so nice to be freed from the albatross that is liberalism. Ever take a look at the demographics of the liberals. Its the Naive and the stupid looking for a handout from the responsible. and the responsible are out numbered now. Thats your real reason we want to leave.兄弟，能甩开自由主义者的沉重的包袱真是太好了。看看自由主义者的人口数据统计。只有愚蠢和天真的人才会想从政府那里获得施舍，而现在的政府人员已经超出了应该有的人数。那是我们想离开的真正的原因。AaronUSAevery action has a reaction, USA has caused bifurcation disastrous in many parts of the world....善恶终有报啊。美国给世界上的很多地方都造成了灾难性的分歧amer nadeemPakistanThis befouled cesspool called AmeriKa doesnt deserve the blood of those intelligent enough to see it's time to put down this treasonous government. They are MORE THAN WElCOME to take the cowards and fools bad-mouthing secession with them,...PLEASE take them with you, we don't WANT them anymore than we want your traitorous asses stinking up the air around us! SECEDE....SECEDE.....SECEDE!!! Secede or suffer a Bolshevik Revolution right here in AmeriKa...we're this close to it at this moment.这个被称为美利坚的肮脏的粪坑不值得那些明智的人为之流血奋斗，这足以看出，是时候该推到这个背信弃义的政府了。他们非常欢迎懦夫和傻瓜与他们分裂。。。请你带上他们吧，正如我们不想让你叛逆的臭气污染我们周围的空气一样，我们也不要他们！脱离。。脱离。。脱离！！！脱离联邦或者在这儿开展一场布尔什维克革命。。。。这一刻，我们离它如此之近。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：chen_lt-------------paschnUSACorrect. If you have by right the ability to secede, then you need not ask permission, and neither should you ask permission by petition. It only supports the idea that you do not have that right. What a state should do, instead, is bring it as a referendum before the citizens of the state. If it passes, it is enacted. The state is an independent sovereign political body; perhaps it has a relationship similar to Puerto Rico or Guam or the Marshall Islands.对的。如果从法律上，你有权脱离联邦，那么你就不需要得到允许，同样你也不应写请愿书请求许可。这只适用于那些你没有这种权利的情况。一个(想要脱离联邦的)州应该做什么呢，相反，它应该在本州的公民中，针对这个问题进行一次全民表决。如果表决通过了，(脱离联邦)这事就定了。该州是一个拥有独立主权的政治体；也许，它(与联邦的关系)类似于波多黎各或关岛或马绍尔群岛。chrisUSASo in other words, there are conservatives in at least twenty states who will throw a big temper tantrum when they don't get their way. It's funny, in an idiotic sort of way, that the people who spent four years saying Obama was destroying America are now filing petitions to do exactly that.换句话说，在至少20个州里，有这么一些保守派分子，当他们的诉求得不到主张的时候，他们就大发雷霆。真有趣，以一种白痴的方式，花了四年时间宣扬奥巴马正在摧毁美国论调的人现在提出请愿书恰好就是在摧毁美国。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：tvenana-------------Reader CommentsIf the states secede the only ones that will have to pay would be the governors, congressmen and senators and they sure aren't going to do that. This will die down by the time the holidays roll around. The Goyim will be ready to save the stores by spending billions on Christmas. They want to make a statment they should boycott Christmas and they would fold. When will the people learn we can take control but they have act in unison如果这些州脱离联邦，唯一需要付出代价的将只有州长，国会议员和参议员，他们肯定不会这么做的。随着假期的来临，这一切都将消失。异教徒们(译者注：犹太人用语、贬义，不信犹太教的人。)正准备在圣诞节的时候去商店血拼购物。他们想发表声明说他们应该抵制圣诞节，但是他们彻底失败。人民什么时候才能学会我们可以拥有主导权？但是他们已经联合起来行动了。joe blowChechnyaThere is a better solution than this. Read the commentary "What Americans Need to Know About Death Squads" and get the model legislation to prohibit the operation of death enacted in your State. The model legislation is incorporated or attached to the article depending on where you find it posted. The most readable format is on the PPJ Gazette web site. The life you save may be your own. James Roger Brown Sociologist, Intelligence Collection and Analysis Methodologist有个比这更好的解决方法。读读“美国人需要知道敢死队”的评论并通过立法禁止你所在的州颁布这种自寻死路的做法。这种立法模式可能就存在于这篇文章里面，或者附加在文章后面，这取决于你找到它在哪里被发布。最易读的格式就发表在PPJ公报的网站上。你拯救的可能就是你自己的命。 James Roger Brown Sociologist，情报收集和分析方法论者-------------译者：猫记 审核者：Red___Sword-------------James Roger BrownUSALeave voting to the educated people who can tell the difference between a bought and paid for puppet and an honorable man with a Congressional voting record that speaks for itself. You missed your U-turn when you failed to get Ron Paul elected. The globalists have taken over and the coup happened in 2000 with the Supreme court electing GWB.把投票权留给那些受过良好教育，能分辨出买卖傀儡之间的区别的人；留给那些有着本身就能说明问题的国会投票记录的令人尊敬的人。当Ron Paul竞选失败是，你就已经回不了头了。全球主义者们已经接管一切，政变就发生在2000年最高法院选举GWB的时候。Mr. SmartypantsUSAAnne, Take your military, your (toothless) border patrol, your federal funding...They can keep the taxes in Texas that they used to send to the corrupt Feds, you can keep your IRS, your EPA, your TSA, and even Big Bird...etc, etc.. Wish I lived in a state that had the guts enough to do as Texas...People are tired of your liberal, corrupt govt. and their fradulent "elections". Wake up baby before you loose all of your freedoms and sit there stunned wondering what happened.Anne，带上你的军队，你的(无牙的)边境巡逻队，你的联邦基金。。。。他们能将原来上交给腐败的联邦政府的税收留在德州，你能保留你的税务局，你的环保局，你的运输安全管理局，甚至“大雕”卫星。。等等。。希望我所在的州也跟德州一样有足够的勇气做出这一切。。。人们已经厌倦了自由派的腐败政府和它们欺世盗名的“选举”。在失去你所有的自由并坐在那里惊讶地想知道到底发生了什么事之前，醒醒吧宝贝。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：Red___Sword-------------PiffUSATexas will be taken over by the mexican drug cartels in a week if they secede so i dont even see why they want to.如果德州脱离联邦，一周之内，德州就会被墨西哥的贩毒集团所控制。因为我甚至不明白他们为什么想要这么做。Thomas FrazierUSAWhat a bunch of meatheads. It wont work. It is a delusion. As Roosevelt astutely said, "the appearance of reality, for reality." There is nothing TEXAS can do to secede from the US corporation. If TEXAS wants to be only Texas, a Nation and Republic unto itself, it is not accomplished by petition. When one wants to stop going to a whore house, one does not go to the brothel to leave, one just never goes back. This delusion is just a sad example of the loss of legal memory in America.真是一群呆瓜。这起不了作用，它就是个幻想。正如罗斯福说的，“面对现实，才能看清现实。”没有什么能让德州脱离联邦。如果德州就想成为德州，想自己成立一个国家，一个共和国，这并不取决于请愿书。当一个人想停止去妓院，他并不是去了再离开，而是不再回来。这个幻想正是美国法律缺失的一个反面例子。AnonymousUSAWow REALLY? What the hell are they trying to do now start a civil war here, this is insane. I really don't know what the military is waiting for they need to go arrest Obummer for his Benghazi treason, and the banksters for all their fraud and be done with it. Then we can get back to our happy place on the planet.喔，真的么？他们现在到底想要做什么？打内战么？真是疯狂，我真不清楚军队到底在等什么？他们应该以他的班加西叛国罪逮捕奥巴马(译者注：文中单词是打错了吧？)， 以欺诈罪逮捕银行家们并了结一切。然后我们就能回归我们在这个星球上的快乐的地方继续生活啦。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：Red___Sword-------------Karla ValenzuelaUSA"I pledge allegiance to the flag and to the Republic for which it stands"? When did we change from a Republic to a Democracy? Show democracy in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence? A Democracy too often leads to fascism. A Republic is all about law, a majority (democracy)is easily cheated. What? congress lie? To us? Oh, lets see. We could start with the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, 9/11/2001, WMD/Iraq...“我宣誓忠于国旗和它所代表的共和国”？我们什么时候从一个共和国变为了一个民主国家？宪法、人权法案和独立宣言中展现民主了么？民主主义常常导致法西斯主义。共和体制一切都有关法律，大多数人(在民主体制下)很容易被欺骗。什么？国会撒谎了？对我们(撒谎)？哦，让我看看，我们可以从卢西塔尼亚号、珍珠港事件、北部湾事件、911、伊拉克大规模杀伤性武器开始。。。。。Reader Commentsthese states know what's coming but unfortunately most american are just too stupid to see into the future. my prediction is that obama will leave office prematurely into his second term. why? because he's an idiot and his incompetence will cause an outcry from the american people. get ready for a rough ride america!这些州清楚将要面临什么，但是不幸的是，大多数美国人如此愚蠢以至于看不到未来(要发生的事情)。我预计奥巴马将在他的第二个任期内早早卸职。为什么？因为他是个白痴，因为他的不称职将引起美国人民的强烈控诉。准备迎接一段艰难的岁月吧，美国！mike dUSANow we know why there was such a large amount of fema buying of hollow point ammunition.This was expectted and is justtified.现在我们知道为什么联邦应急管理局购买如此大量的空心点弹药。这都是可预期的且事出有因。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：Red___Sword-------------pedro mohrAustraliafederal government is so corrupt I'm surprised people aren't hunting down congressmen with torches and pitch forks in an angry mob. More power to this effort every state should tell the feds to go F themselves.联邦政府这么腐败，我对于人们没有拿着火炬和草叉愤怒地对国会议员进行穷追猛打。每个州应该更加努力并让联邦政府他们去死吧。r2d2USARemove all Defense plants because they are not loyal to the US. Remove all nuclear weapons and components. No Interstate Funds, embargoed from trade in the US Defense Industry. Trains down to Texas and take all the nuclear weapons and components out of Pantex, Tx. Tennessee, remove all the Y-12 nuclear weapon plant from Oak Ridge, Tenn. Close ammunition works in Milan and Kingsport, the nuclear reactor fuels in Erwin, etc因为他们不忠于美国，移走所有的军工厂。移除所有核武器和组件。取缔州际公路基金，在美国国防工业实行贸易禁运。把火车开到德州，运走潘特克斯核武工厂所有的核武器和组件。从田纳西州橡树岭的核工厂移走所有的Y-12 。 关于位于米兰和金斯波特的所有的弹药工厂，关闭欧文的核反应堆，等等。Jim PhelpsUSAPeople are angry and want smaller Government, more privacy and they want their rights and liberty left alone. The Tyrant US Government has nobody to blame except itself. The Obozo administration has some serious problems. Anne Texas can secure it's borders better than the Feds can , the local Militias are better than the government patrol as they will shoot back and not take crap from the invading illegal immigrant enemy force.人们感到非常愤怒并想要精简点的政府机构，想要更多的隐私，想保留他们的权利和自由。残暴的美国政府是咎由自取。奥巴马政府有着很多严重的问题。德州比联邦更能保护好自己的边境。当地民币组织也比政府巡逻队要好，他们将回击而不是不会接受非法移民的狗屁说辞。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：Red___Sword-------------Nailer45USAI'm ashamed to be from Texas, I will never approve of that, and who is allowed to make the this decisions for all of us!!!!我真为德克萨斯州感到羞愧，我从来不赞成(德州脱离联邦)，并且谁有权利替我们所有人做这个决定！！！！TexanUSAYes, sadly... we who even visit these articles are put on a list of possible revolutionaries etc... also known as home grown terrorists. There is much, much, much more to this story that is not covered in this article. We are covering it in great detail. Do searches on "Financial Tyranny" etc... www.facebook.com/BankAndPoliticianFinancialCorruption是的，这让人感到悲哀。。。甚至我们这些访问过这些文章的人都被列入一张革命分子名单里等等。。。还被称为本土恐怖分子。还有很多很多故事，文章中没有介绍。我们用大量的细节覆盖了它。搜索“金融暴政”等。。。CoreyG/TexasUSAThere is also one for Idaho, if anyone would care to sign it. Doing anything, helps... If even a little... The feds are insane. This is the only rational action to take...如果任何人想签署请愿书，还有一个爱达荷州。做任何事，帮助。。。如果连这么一点。。。联邦政府要疯了。这是能采取的唯一的理性行为。。。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：Red___Sword------------- Reader CommentsA lot of idiot americans do not understand why this is happening. With Obama and Diane Fiendstein planning on destroying the 2nd amendment, and with Obama planning FULL AMNESTY for ILLEGAL ALIENS during his 2nd term, anyone should be able to see why US Citizens want states to secede from The Union.很多白痴样的美国人不理解发生这一切的原因。奥巴马和Diane Fiendstein 计划取缔第二修正案且奥巴马打算在他第二个总统任期内，计划对所有的非法入境者实行大赦。任何人都应该看清为什么美国公民想要他们所在的州脱离联邦。BFrankUSATake all of your fascist creatures and hit the door! We don't want you, your money or your rhetoric anymore. We only want to live free and prosperous without some creep putting their hands down our pants, some limp wrist "New Yawker" taking advantage of our hard earned cashed, or a line of half-wit corporate funded leaders who only serve those with money as their gods. DON'T TREAD ON ME.带上你们所有的法西斯分子滚出去！我们再也不需要你们，再也不需要你们的钱和你们的巧辞令色。我们只想自由兴旺地生活，不想要一些让人恶心的人把他们的手放在我们的裤子底下，一些软弱的“老乡”利用我们的努力坐享其成，或一些弱智公司资助视金钱为上帝的人作为领导者。别想在太岁头上动土！-------------译者：猫记 审核者：Red___Sword-------------Vincent C.USAWhat Border Patrol?边境巡逻队在干什么？Larry EnglekeUSAMilitary is from each state, I wonder how many will stand with their state instead of the Feds? Texas doesn't need help with border patrol, I think they can get the under control themselves. And the Federal funds come from the taxes the states send to the feds, so those that seceded simply wouldn't send any money to the feds, hence actually increasing their own finances while sticking it to the feds by denying them money they're planning on getting. Try again.军队来自于各个州，我想知道有多少士兵会支持他们州的立场而不支持联邦的立场？德克萨斯州不需要边境巡逻队的帮助，我认为他们自己可以控制。联邦基金收取各州的税金交给联邦政府，因此那些要求脱离联邦的州将不再给钱给联邦政府，因此实际上增加了他们自己的财政收入而对联邦政府坚称(这些州)他们钱的用途。有着他们自己的计划。再试试。AnneUSAThis is a bunch of cry baby nonsense. The person they wanted didn't win so they're not going to play with us anymore. If you go to the website, half of these petitions are not even signed by the residents of their own state. If Texas can get $25,000 people from Texas to sign, great, don't let the door hit ya on the way out and oh by the way, we'll take all of our military, all of our border patrol and all of our federal funding with us.这就跟哭闹的婴儿一样胡说八道。他们支持的人没有赢得选举，他们就要退出。如果你去(白宫)网站上上看看，(你会发现)一般的请愿甚至都不是这些州的公民所签署的。 如果德克萨斯州能让25000名本州公民签署请愿书，很好，千万别让门挡着你的路。顺便说一句，我们将掌控所有的军队，所有的边境巡逻队并且我们将自己使用所有的联邦基金。-------------译者：猫记 审核者：Red___Sword-------------NYer not signing anythingUSAIt will be better for these states and for USA. All of them can form government which suites their need. Consequently world will be safe from grab wars. Alternatively US can adopt truer democratic elections learning from Germany. One gets puzzled over US sermons to other countries over democracy while its own system is not truely representative.这对这些州和美国来说是两全其美的好事。他们都能建立一个符合自己需求的政府。世界就不会发生争地战争从而变得更加安全。另一种选择是，美国能跟德国学学真正地民主。当美国自己的体制不能真正成为民主典范却向其他国家宣扬民主，这让人觉得困惑。Inayat AliUnited KingdomThis is good news for the people of those States. It makes sense to secede in view of the fact that there is a wide divide in how various States look at each other.对这些州的人们来说，这是个好消息。这回脱离联邦的事情证明在各个州如何看待对方的这件事上，存在一个广泛的分歧。从这点上来说，它是有意义的。如果德州脱离联邦，一周之内，德州就会被墨西哥的贩毒集团所控制。因为我甚至不明白他们为什么想要这么做。+10086这么长没什么人看的，虽然我看完了。。。支持美帝人民 追求自由民主的权利