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【高卢鸡才没有那么呆】印法阵风合同停顿.达索拒绝为HAL组装的108架负责.

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【楼主】(19195389)2013-04-07 09:39

» 印法阵风合同停顿.达索拒绝为HAL组装的108架负责.
    http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130405/DEFREG03/304050009/Report-India-France-Rafale-Deal-Stalled
    
    
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    Report: India-France Rafale Deal Stalled
    Apr. 5, 2013 - 08:09AM | By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
    印法阵风合同停顿.
    The Indian Express newspaper, citing anonymous sources in its report, said that Dassault had refused to take responsibility for the 108 jets to be manufactured by HAL,
    达索拒绝为HAL组装的108架负责.
    
    The French firm reportedly told Indian officials that New Delhi would have to negotiate two contracts, one with Dassault for 18 fighters and the other with HAL for the remaining 108 aircraft.
    公鸡建议签两个合同: 印度和达索签18架(法制)的合同, 印度再和HAL签108架的合同.
    
    The defense ministry “completely rejected this suggestion and made it clear to Dassault that it (the French company) will be solely responsible for the sale and delivery of all 126 aircraft,” the newspaper reported, citing sources.
    
    阿三国防部彻底拒绝公鸡这一推卸责任的建议,强调达索必须对全部126架飞机负全责.
    
    全文如下:
    
    
    NEW DELHI — India’s negotiations with France’s Dassault Aviation on a $12-billion deal for Rafale fighter jets have stalled due to disagreements over the production of the planes in India, a report said Friday.
    
    The defense deal, one of the biggest ever, was to see the manufacture of the first 18 of the jets in France, with the remainder to be produced under license by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), a state-run Indian aerospace behemoth.
    
    The Indian Express newspaper, citing anonymous sources in its report, said that Dassault had refused to take responsibility for the 108 jets to be manufactured by HAL, sparking a row with New Delhi. The French firm reportedly told Indian officials that New Delhi would have to negotiate two contracts, one with Dassault for 18 fighters and the other with HAL for the remaining 108 aircraft.
    
    The defense ministry “completely rejected this suggestion and made it clear to Dassault that it (the French company) will be solely responsible for the sale and delivery of all 126 aircraft,” the newspaper reported, citing sources.
    
    Dassault is thought to have reservations about the ability of HAL, a firm renowned for its inefficiencies, to handle the complex manufacturing and technology transfers, which are a crucial part of the deal.
    
    The Rafale beat stiff competition from six rivals from Russia, the U.S. and Europe last year when India selected the French fighter to replace its aging fleet. Its main rival, the Eurofighter, made by European group EADS, has remained in India and is still hoping to bag the deal in case Dassault is unable to conclude the negotiations successfully.
    
    A Dassault spokeswoman said she was unable to comment immediately on the report when contacted by AFP.
    
    The Rafale has carried out bombing missions in Afghanistan, Libya and most recently in Mali, where it is currently flying sorties targeting Islamist militants.
    
    India’s air force chief said in February that the country hopes to sign the deal with Dassault Aviation by the middle of the year.
    
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    HAL组装 还想让高卢鸡对这批飞机负责 这尼玛想陪死达索啊
    感情是摔毛子货已经没有感觉了 想换点法国高级货摔么....
    敢让HAL动飞机也只有越南这么V5吧
    


网友评论(594325)2013-04-07 09:45


    就算给三哥B2也是一样掉下来
    
网友评论(19195389)2013-04-07 09:45


    HAL华丽的击坠记录
    
    1992-2004年间, HAL:
    组装米格-21两架,大修八架, 其中八架坠毁
    组装米格-21BISON一架,大修一架,其中一架坠毁.
    组装美洲豹三架,大修五架,其中六架坠毁.
    大修幻影-2000四架,全部坠毁.
    组装米格-27三架,大修三架,其中四架坠毁.
    大修米格-29三架,全部坠毁.
    在过去数年中,印军坠毁的29架飞机中,有26架是由HAL制造,大修或者升级的...
    29架坠机中,2004-05年坠毁13架,06年,07年每年坠毁8架。
    印度斯坦航空公司虽然是印度最大的国防承包商、印度国防工业的龙头企业,但作为“整体萎靡”的印度国防工业的一个缩影,该公司的生产管理水平委实令人不能恭维。
    2002年,该公司曾在米格-21战机改进项目中多次出现严重技术失误,经过该公司改造升级的米格-21战机在很短的一段时间内,就连续发生了多起坠机事故。
    2008年年初,在“美洲虎”攻击机的升级改造项目中,为了及时完成合同,该公司竟然偷偷地在战机上安装了“非标准部件”,印空军最终不得不将7架该公司改造过的“美洲虎”攻击机退回去重新返工。
    同样由印度斯坦航空公司组装的印空军未来王牌主力——苏-30MKI战机也成为了主要被怀疑的对象。在一次印空军内部的飞行安全会议上,有人提出,20世纪90年代中期以来,印度空军大约有70架作战飞机因“技术缺陷”而失事,其中相当一部分都是由印度斯坦航空公司组装或进行过改造的。
    2012年3月9日,一架幻影-2000战机在拉贾斯坦邦斋普尔东南约60公里处坠毁。这是印度空军继12年2月24日发生坠机事故后的第二次坠机,也是2012年印度空军坠毁的第二架幻影-2000战机。印度战机频繁发生坠毁事故,使印度成为世界上空军战机坠毁率最高的国家。
    四年坠毁三十三架
    2012年3月19日,印度议会接到报告称,2008年以来,印度空军在各种事故中损失了33架固定翼战机(1架“美洲虎”、2架幻影-2000、3架苏-30MKI、27架“米格”系列战机)和10架直升机,这些事故导致26名军人和6名平民丧生。
    
网友评论(1617772)2013-04-07 09:47


    哈哈,哈哈,啊哈哈哈哈哈哈
    
网友评论(2047199)2013-04-07 09:47


    这次真的晚了点发
    
网友评论(991617)2013-04-07 09:48


    要死找个垫背的?
    
网友评论(1617772)2013-04-07 09:49


    Reply to Reply Post by 鹰击千里 (2013-04-07 09:45)
    
    这个东西的数据感觉很成问题
    
    按印度人的报道,印度空军成立至今已经摔了上千架,而且这里给出的组装、大修数字也太少了点——即使考虑到印度人的低效
    
网友评论(11983557)2013-04-07 09:50


    今天是星期天啊,不地道
    
    
网友评论(19195389)2013-04-07 09:51


    Reply to Reply Post by 长征五号 (2013-04-07 09:49)
    
    参考一下就好了。。。我觉得HAL的水平已经不需要用精确数字来证明它的实力了
    
网友评论(1617772)2013-04-07 09:53


    Reply to Reply Post by 鹰击千里 (2013-04-07 09:51)
    
    毫无参考意义,印度空军自70年代到2011年就实现了摔机1000架的伟大目标,平均每年20多架了
    1,000 aircraft lost by IAF in crashes since 70s
    
    "In 39.5 per cent of the cases, technical defect is the cause and in 39 per cent of the cases, human error was found to be responsible," the report said.
    
    The Committee was informed by the IAF that of these 999 accidents, 12 cases were being investigated by the service.
    
    Servicing error caused 1.6 per cent of the accidents wheras nine per cent of the crashes were caused by bird hit and the remaining were because of the errors by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
    
网友评论(19195389)2013-04-07 09:55


    Reply to Reply Post by 长征五号 (2013-04-07 09:53)
    
    大HAL已经从摔的数量 向 摔的质量转变 !
    


网友评论(2492124)2013-04-07 09:56


    其实这很普遍感觉
    ----sent from my samsung Nexus S,Android 4.1.2
    
网友评论(1617772)2013-04-07 09:58


    HAL真正的伟大贡献你没搞清楚
    
    这么些年来HAL研制的飞机都是翔,哪怕是螺旋桨初教他们都搞不好,结果就是除了买的教练机之外,IAF没有教练机可用
    
网友评论(40593)2013-04-07 09:59


    今天周几来着。
    
网友评论(236283)2013-04-07 10:03


    公鸡又不二!这单子老毛子也不敢接!
    ----sent from my samsung GT-S7568,Android 4.0.4
    
网友评论(1691346)2013-04-07 10:06


    Reply to Reply Post by Raszagal (2013-04-07 09:59)
    
    周日自由发挥
    

    
    
    

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